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Subject: Re: Beer + Wlan
From: John Angelmo <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Network management discussion for Nordic region <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:00:39 +0100

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Simon wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 08:10:38PM +0100, John Angelmo wrote:
>>Simon wrote:
>>>Ssh feels like a step in the right direction.
>>>It's turned into something of a defacto standard for [unix] server
>>>remote administration, let's hope the same happens for
>>>routers/switches/etc so we can forget all about telnet.
>>ssh is great, using openssh wouldn't be that hard, I THINK it has quite
>>a small footprint. But theres still coming out to many new bugfixes and
>>new releases coming out, updating with new images every second month
>>isn't that fun.
> True, openssh would probably be a good base for vendors to build from
> though. The license[1] shouldn't pose to many restriction, and Theo & co
> do have security as a primary goal, despite what the recent exploits may
> indicate.
On new routers and new switches, implenting openssh woudn't be a
problem, but on old once, well I don't think that there would be enough
room for both telnet and ssh, but giving admins the choise is better
then doing nothing

>>>I'd say snmp needs a major overhaul for people to regain any amount of
>>>confidence in it after the recent CERT announcement.
>>time seems to also be the factor here, in a few months it might be OK
>>once again.
> That's nice, who needs security through obscurity when we can have
> security through forgetfulness :)
I was thinking more that something new might come up.

> Seriously though, it would be nice if something came along that would do
> to snmp what ssh did to telnet. Maybe such a thing already exists, who
> knows.
> [1]

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