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Subject: Re: IP-tel
From: Måns Nilsson <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Network management discussion for Nordic region <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:16:58 +0100
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- --On Friday, January 24, 2003 10:50:18 +0100 Patrik Fältström
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> On fredag, jan 24, 2003, at 10:44 Europe/Stockholm, John Angelmo wrote:
>
>> But hey PPPoE sucks anyway ;)
>
> No, it doesn't.
>
> It is, like many technologies, perfect for certain environments. I can
> for example see local networks give access to different internets
> connecting to the Internet via PPPoE.

That could be done without MTU destruction by means of VLANs or similar.

> Of course, one can use on IP layer one of the other authentication
> mechanisms as well.

Certainly. Additionally, the incumbent has a good identification model,
good enough for legacy POTS billing, and that is where the copper pair ends
up. The registered owner gets the bill, and is responsible. If that is good
enough for POTS, it should do for billing of DSL services as well.

> It all depends on context my dear Watson.

Except that PPPoE is an ugly layering violation that must die. I have
suffered from it and I do not want to inflict it even on my enemies.

- --
Måns Nilsson            Systems Specialist
+46 70 681 7204         KTHNOC  MN1334-RIPE

We're sysadmins. To us, data is a protocol-overhead.
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