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Subject: Fwd: [SANOG] Fw: [IP] Ireland to regulate peering
From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Network management discussion for Nordic region <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:33:41 +0200

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A bit of cross-posting...

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> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: sön jun 15, 2003  14:47:06 Europe/Stockholm
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> Subject: [SANOG] Fw: [IP] Ireland to regulate peering
> Good Lord.
>       srs
> ----- Forwarded message from Dave Farber <[log in to unmask]> -----
> From: Dave Farber <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 06:19:20 -0400
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> Subject: [IP] Ireland to regulate peering
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:37:56 +0100
>> From: Alex French <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Ireland to regulate peering
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>> Dave,
>> For IP if you think it's suitable.
>> In brief: New rules being put in place by the Irish telecoms regulator
>> will regulate IP peering between ISPs as if it were a voice
>> interconnect.
>> I'd love to hear from any other IPers who know if this is being
>> proposed
>> anywhere else in Europe. As far as I know, this is unprecedented.
>> The Irish telecoms regulator (ComReg) has announced a new set of
>> licensing
>> rules for telcos. The bad part is that the rules have been greatly
>> expanded to include regulation of "all electronic communications
>> networks", including (apparently) ISP networks and VPN operators.
>> ComReg is planning to apply the principles of voice interconnect to
>> all
>> network types; this means that "operators of public communications
>> networks shall have a right, and when requested by other [operators],
>> an
>> obligation to negotiate interconnection with each other for the
>> purpose of
>> providing publicly available electronic communications services." In
>> effect, IP networks will have to peer with each other on request.
>> Even worse, the "interconnect" (i.e. peering) prices will be subject
>> to
>> review by the Irish regulator if either party feels that they're not
>> being
>> offered a fair deal.
>> The cherry on the cake is that ISPs can be designated as having
>> "Significant Market Power" (this used to be defined as having 25% of a
>> market, but the criteria are now more nebulous). If you have SMP, you
>> must
>> publish your network cost accounting as prove that the peering prices
>> you
>> charge are cost-oriented (cost + a reasonable ROI)
>> As I see it, this will lead to the collapse of the current
>> peering/transit
>> negotiation process that ISPs have successfully used all over the
>> world
>> for years. I don't even see how this would benefit smaller ISPs,
>> since the
>> new rules are likely to discourage larger companies from entering this
>> market at all. At the very least, the regulation of peering rates has
>> got
>> to hurt competition.
>> The relevant documents are available at Specific
>> links are
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
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