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Agree, and it might be useful to build a simulation model which takes into account known growth, mortality, and any pertinant spatial population structure, and play with selection curves. Size/age dependent gear selection, and likewise for retention/marketing. Basically you're building a time series dataset of landed size/age frequencies, changes therein reflect a lot of processes, certainly growth, recruitment, mortality, and the entire catching/retaining/marketing process. It's not too astounding that there will be significant differences in the landed sizes when comparing season, location, and vessel. And I don't think treating average size or age as a normal variable is wise, size/age frequencies are very complex usually multimodal distributions. I'd suggest caution, unless the coverage is very complete it would be easy to start finding significant relationships everywhere when it could be something as basic as -growth-. Just my $0.02, consult a lot of people on this and find consensus on appropriate analysis and experimental design of your port sampling... -Don
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Trevor J. Kenchington wrote:
> ... > However, the various replies to date, with their recommendation of using > a Generalized Linear Model, all appear (to me) to face a problem that > Antonio's ANOVA would also face. That is, each observation would have to > comprise a single value for shell height, whereas the data are more > likely to take the form of a shell-height frequency. > > Can GLM cope with that extra dimension in the data, treating the > frequency as a frequency? That would be ideal, if it can be done. >
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