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Subject: Re: UV lamps, night underwater observations and VIE tags
From: "Peter A. Nelson" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Scientific forum on fish and fisheries <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Wed, 18 May 2005 09:54:09 -0700
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Jim: What kind of UV filters? Were they blocking all wavelengths BUT 
UV? (Most UV-pass filters also lead IR, incidently) If these were 
UV-pass filters, where did you get them and how did you see what you 
were doing? Halogen bulbs seem to put out a fair bit of UV, but much of 
that is blocked by the standard lens on a dive light--there may still 
be enough to be useful, but I'd be very interested in the details if 
you still have them.

Thanks, Pete
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Peter A. Nelson, Ph.D.
Marine Fisheries Advisor
University of California
Sea Grant Extension Program
2 Commercial Str, Suite 4
Eureka, California 95501

tel 707.443.8369
fax 707.445.3901

On May 18, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Jim West wrote:

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> Simon we marked juvenile (80-100 mm) rockfish (Sebastes) with VIE tags 
> in Puget Sound some years ago.  The tags worked well, and we were able 
> to observe them clearly at night for around 270 days.  We ended the 
> study then for other reasons but the tags were still clearly visible 
> after that time.  We used regular halogen dive lights fitted with UV 
> filters that we simply cut to match the size of the lens (fitting the 
> filter inside or behind the lens).  We observed no change in behavior 
> when we illuminated the fish.
> Jim West
>
>
> James E. West,  M.Sc.
> Marine Resources Division
> Washington Dept. of Fish and Wildlife
> 600 Capitol Way N.
> Olympia, WA, 98501-1091, USA
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> (360) 902-2842
> fax (360) 902-2943
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> Hello everybody,
>
> I aim to study night activity of atlantic salmon fry in a field 
> experiment.
> Because I want to measure activity at the individual level, every fish 
> used
> in the experiment will be individually tagged using VIE tags (Visible
> Implant Elastomer, http://www.nmt.us/products/vie/vie.htm). Such tags 
> are
> highly visible under low luminosity conditions when fluoresced with 
> blue
> light and amber filters.
> However, in a laboratory experiment I found that atlantic salmon fry 
> were
> highly disturbed when illuminated with such light. I contacted the
> fabriquant and they said to me that this problem can be resolved using 
> UV
> lamps.
>
> I've got two questions:
>          -Has someone ever used such kind of UV lamps? Is it really
> possible to fluoresce VIE tags with UV lamps?
>          -Where can I find waterproof UV lamps?
>
> Moreover, if someone used to do underwater observation by night, I 
> would be
> greatful for any advice!
>
> I look foward to hearing from you
>
> Simon Blanchet
>
>
> BLANCHET Simon
> PhD student
> Université Laval - Québec-Océan / CIRSA
> Pavillon Alexandre-Vachon
> Local 8022
> Québec (Québec), Canada G1K 7P4
> Téléphone : (418) 656-2131 poste 8022
> courriel : [log in to unmask]
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