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Re: PANJet or Elastomer Tags

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"Peter A. Nelson" <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:53:49 -0700

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Hi Summer:

I've used a hypodermic needle to inject acrylic (not latex) paints
(from an art supply store) just under the skin of a fairly wide
variety of small fishes with variable success. It works great with
some spp/sizes and poorly with others. You'll need to experiment, but
I'd encourage you to try. In my experience, you're approaching the
practical lower size limits at 70 mm, but it's worth trying nonetheless.

Most recently I was able to purchase a new (?) type of acrylic paint
that was unusually low viscosity. The usual acrylic paint in my
experience is like toothpaste and had to be diluted some form of
sterile saline. The new stuff works very well.

This may be useful as well:

Lotrich VA, Meredith WH (1974) A technique and the effectiveness of
various acrylic colors for subcutaneous marking of fish. Transactions
of the American Fisheries Society 1: 140-142

Good luck!

Pete



Peter A. Nelson, Ph.D.





On Mar 13, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Summer Burdick wrote:

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> We are looking into the possibility of batch marking young of the
> year fish
> 30-70 mm SL with an visible implant elastomer or panjet type tattoo.
> Unfortunatly we are working with a very limited budget. The panjet
> injector
> uses cheap latex paint to inject small marks on the fins, whereas the
> visible implant elastomer uses a more expensive paint that is
> visible under
> a VI light. The panjet injectors can be quite expensive (~$500
> each). Has
> anyone tried using a simple hypodermic needle to inject latex pain
> under the
> skin of very small fish? This seems like a very inexpensive way to
> give
> very small fish a short term batch mark. Or does any one have panjet
> injectors that they will not be using this summer, that we may
> barrow to see
> how well they work. If these turn out to be a viable option for us,
> then I
> am sure we would need to buy some of our own. Or does anyone have
> any other
> ideas on how to efficiently mark several thousand 30-70 mm fish on a
> tight
> budget?
>
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