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Subject: Re: Industrial Fisheries video needed
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Reply-To:Scientific forum on fish and fisheries <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:43:46 EST

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Industrial fishing is any fishing activity that uses a boat that is  larger
than my boat.

Dick Allen
_www.LobsterConservation.com_ ( 

size matters, Dick
But more seriously, the term gets thrown around quite a bit as a  pejorative, 
without anyone saying what they mean.  I am not even  certain that the term 
is needed as all fisheries are industries.  Wikipedia  says, "Commercial 
fishing, also known as industrial  fishing, is the activity of capturing _fish_ 
(  and other _seafood_ 
(  for _commercial_ (  
_profit_ ( , mostly from _wild  fisheries_ 
( . It provides a large 
quantity of food to many countries around the  world, but those who practice it 
as an industry must often pursue fish far into  the ocean under adverse 
Look at _ 
(  for  a much better 
So if the two are synonymous why try to distinguish. It appears that  the 
reason is to advance an agenda and for that the term "industrial"  gets people 
more stirred up about fishing than does the term  "commercial". To wit:
From Fishfolk:  "The Oceana study, entitled, "Hungry Oceans: What  Happens 
When the Prey Is Gone," focuses on three threats:

-- Overfishing  of prey species are going unregulated, including immense 
stores of squid and  krill. Whole schools of fish that feed tuna, whales and other 
long-lived animals  and drive migrations are caught in nets, particularly by 
industrial fishing  vessels."
From Pew press release:  "Audubon Alaska, Oceana, Ocean Conservancy  and the 
Pew Environment Group are partnered with scientists, local Arctic  
communities, and fishermen to call for a science-based, precautionary approach  before 
any industrial fishing activities are allowed to expand into the Arctic  Ocean."
From Greenpeace Canada:  "Modern fishing methods are stripping the  oceans of 
marine life at an incredible pace. Unregulated industrial fishing  destroys 
whole marine ecosystems and has to stop. 
Giant ships using state-of-the-art  sonar can pinpoint schools of fish 
quickly and accurately. The ships are  floating buildings with fish processing and 
packing plants, huge freezing  systems, fishmeal processing plants, and 
powerful engines to drag enormous  fishing gear through the ocean.  
Wherever they operate, the capacity of industrial fishing fleets  exceed the 
ocean's ecological limits. The trend of the past century is of  fishing down 
the food chain. As larger fish species are wiped out, the next  smaller fish 
species are targeted. Canadian Fisheries expert Dr. Daniel Pauly  warns that if 
this continues our children will be eating jellyfish." 
Peanut butter and jellyfish sandwiches?  Anyway, peanuts are  a no-no because 
of industrial peanut processing.  Life is tough. 
Greenpeace Canada seems to use size as the  determining criterion.  So a 
factory trawler freezing filets is  an industrial fishing vessel because its big. 
But a Peruvian  anchovy seiner is less than 30 m, yet the product is fish meal 
and oil  and targeting lower trophic level species for reduction.  That is  
industrial fishing?  If the trophic level is the criterion then the  old 
pelagic whaling fleets were not industrial fishing, and why suggest a video  clip of 
a tuna purse seiner. 
Camilo, I wish you well, but without additional information including  a 
working definition of "industrial" it appears your project may be heading  in a 
direction that we would expect from Oceana rather than SIO.

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