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Re: Industrial Fisheries video needed


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Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:43:46 EST





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Industrial fishing is any fishing activity that uses a boat that is larger
than my boat.

Dick Allen
_www.LobsterConservation.com_ (

size matters, Dick
But more seriously, the term gets thrown around quite a bit as a pejorative,
without anyone saying what they mean. I am not even certain that the term
is needed as all fisheries are industries. Wikipedia says, "Commercial
fishing, also known as industrial fishing, is the activity of capturing _fish_
( and other _seafood_
( for _commercial_ (
_profit_ ( , mostly from _wild fisheries_
( . It provides a large
quantity of food to many countries around the world, but those who practice it
as an industry must often pursue fish far into the ocean under adverse
Look at _
( for a much better
So if the two are synonymous why try to distinguish. It appears that the
reason is to advance an agenda and for that the term "industrial" gets people
more stirred up about fishing than does the term "commercial". To wit:
From Fishfolk: "The Oceana study, entitled, "Hungry Oceans: What Happens
When the Prey Is Gone," focuses on three threats:

-- Overfishing of prey species are going unregulated, including immense
stores of squid and krill. Whole schools of fish that feed tuna, whales and other
long-lived animals and drive migrations are caught in nets, particularly by
industrial fishing vessels."
From Pew press release: "Audubon Alaska, Oceana, Ocean Conservancy and the
Pew Environment Group are partnered with scientists, local Arctic
communities, and fishermen to call for a science-based, precautionary approach before
any industrial fishing activities are allowed to expand into the Arctic Ocean."
From Greenpeace Canada: "Modern fishing methods are stripping the oceans of
marine life at an incredible pace. Unregulated industrial fishing destroys
whole marine ecosystems and has to stop.
Giant ships using state-of-the-art sonar can pinpoint schools of fish
quickly and accurately. The ships are floating buildings with fish processing and
packing plants, huge freezing systems, fishmeal processing plants, and
powerful engines to drag enormous fishing gear through the ocean.
Wherever they operate, the capacity of industrial fishing fleets exceed the
ocean's ecological limits. The trend of the past century is of fishing down
the food chain. As larger fish species are wiped out, the next smaller fish
species are targeted. Canadian Fisheries expert Dr. Daniel Pauly warns that if
this continues our children will be eating jellyfish."
Peanut butter and jellyfish sandwiches? Anyway, peanuts are a no-no because
of industrial peanut processing. Life is tough.
Greenpeace Canada seems to use size as the determining criterion. So a
factory trawler freezing filets is an industrial fishing vessel because its big.
But a Peruvian anchovy seiner is less than 30 m, yet the product is fish meal
and oil and targeting lower trophic level species for reduction. That is
industrial fishing? If the trophic level is the criterion then the old
pelagic whaling fleets were not industrial fishing, and why suggest a video clip of
a tuna purse seiner.
Camilo, I wish you well, but without additional information including a
working definition of "industrial" it appears your project may be heading in a
direction that we would expect from Oceana rather than SIO.

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