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My experience with spawning ground surveys in northern Alaska included several observations of fish densities so high that animals were forced to accept marginal habitat and\or spawn without the opportunity to construct suitable redds. Whether these broadcast eggs were fertilized or viable is unknown as I was not sampling. Brian Bigler NW Region Biology Program Manager Washington State Dept. of Transportation 15700 Dayton Avenue North, NB82-138 P.O. Box 330310 Shoreline, WA 98133-9710 Phone: 206-440-4519 Cell: 206-919-1610 Fax: 206-440-4805 email: [log in to unmask] P Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle..
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Hello, My experience with this is limited. I participated in a couple of sockeye spawner surveys in southeast Alaska, in the primary tributary to McDonald Lake. There were very few redds in the stream. The substrate was mostly fist sized pieces of granite. The sockeye would spawn and the eggs would drop down into the spaces between the rocks. Gary
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In the recently published AFS book _Standard Methods for Sampling North American Freshwater Fishes_ there is the following statement in one section re: the use of redd counts (p. 122):
"In some cases, eggs could be broadcast directly into the substrate with no redd construction. To our knowledge, this behavior is not well documented for stream-living salmons and trouts, but field observations (e.g., lack of observable redds in streams with high juvenile recruitment) indicate that this is a distinct possibility."
The field observations mentioned in this quote are consistent with some of my (albeit limited) observations (or interpretations) in some local streams. Does anyone have a reference for this behavior or, in the lack of that, does anyone have an observation or opinion about this quote.
Thanks in advance for any help or discussion.
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