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Subject: Re: Anaesthetic for intertidal fish
From: Hasan Orek <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Scientific forum on fish and fisheries <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:00:46 +0200
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Magnus here is the link of the article, but you need to subscribe before 
downloading it..


http://afsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1577/1548-8659%281942%2972%5B25:TAOFBH%5D2.0.CO%3B2

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Hasan Orek (PhD)
Middle East Technical University
Institute of Marine Sciences
Erdemli / Mersin
33731
TURKEY
Phone: + 90 324 5212406 (int: 1205)
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Joan wrote:

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> Magnus,  Here is another one that apparently went out with the dinosaurs,
> but it worked for me 40 or so years ago.  Of course that was before there
> were so many regulations, but I do not see why it would not be permitted.  I
> learned of it from an article by Fish (1942).  That the authors name was
> Fish was such a coincidence that I still remember his name even though I do
> not remember where it was published.
>
> I wanted to tag small estuarine migrants (5 cm or so) and could not afford
> to buy anaesthetics.  So I read where you could anaesthetize fish by adding
> sodium bicarbonate to the water they were contained in and then add vinegar.
> The reaction released carbon dioxide which anaesthetized the fish.  After I
> had tagged the fish I placed them in fresh water to be sure they revived
> before they were released. As far as I know they survived: at least I
> recovered some of them later from the wild.
>
> If you are interested in the original paper by Fish, and can not find it,
> let me know.  If may still have the citation somewhere.
>
> William H. Herke, Ph.D.
> LSU School of Renewable Natural Resources
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> Subject: Anaesthetic for intertidal fish
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> Hi All,
>
> We are doing a project on intertidal fish and want to knock them out so
> that Chris can tag and measure them with minimal stress to the fish.
> I've used clove oil in the past (cheap and easy to get hold of) but have
> recently been told by a home office inspector that this went out with
> the dinosaurs!
>
> I've also been told that in the UK it is ok to use clove oil or
> 2-phexyethanol to kill fish but not to anaesthetise and bring round and
> that we should  use MS222 (Tricaine methanesulfonate) instead.
>
> Can anyone offer some advice/suggestions?
>
> Cheers, Magnus
> _____________________________________________________________
>
> Dr Magnus L. Johnson
> Centre for Environmental and Marine Sciences
> University of Hull
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> http://www.hull.ac.uk/cems
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