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Subject: Re: grads. jobs & fisheries
From: Tamara Grand <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Academic forum on fisheries ecology and related topics <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:47:06 -0700

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I would like to add a comment to M. Grober's comments on the merits of
completing a Masters degree before undertaking a Ph.D.

> If you want an academic position, you
> are much better off going straight from your Bachelors into a PhD program.
> Most 'major' PhD granting institutions treat master's students like second
> class citizens or use the degree to terminate PhD students who don't 'work
> out'.  The only situation where I think the MS is critical, is for a
> student who (by virtue of a spotty academic record) can't gain access to a
> top lab/program.  In this case I would recommend going to a non-PhD
> granting school (e.g., any school in the Cal. State school - not to be
> confused with the UC system) to get a masters that will be a stepping stone
> to a top position.

While this may be the case at US universities, in Canada, many (and
perhaps, most) students complete Masters degrees before they enrol in a
PhD program, regardless of their academic record. Masters degrees are seen
to have value and often result in a number of publications. In some cases,
work completed during a Masters degree is mistaken for Doctoral quality
work by those who assume that Masters students are students who didn't
'work out' or couldn't get into 'a top lab/program'.

Just sign me 'a Canadian who wanted to set the record straight'

Tamara Grand


Tamara C. Grand

Behavioural Ecology Research Group
Dept. of Biological Sciences
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B.C.   Canada
E-mail: [log in to unmask]

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